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up just like you and they can't even tell on tv. pete: i'm thinking of power washing the deck today. i'm not sure. will: are you serious right now? pete: i might power wash the deck. will: i thought we were doing ka rate in the garage. join us tomorrow, please, for fox & friends. neil: all right, in the middle of debating how much money is being spent in washington, a plan for a so-called bipartisan commission to look at the supreme court and whether we need more judges or whether we need term limits for those judges. its created a firestorm with republicans saying the president is trying to find a way to pack the court and others still saying this has nothing to do with that, just a whole other heated debate to keep the arguing going on on top of infrastructure and money being spent and well, so much happening as we speak. welcome, everybody i'm neil cavuto and i hope you're having a great morning and we'll have a
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great weekend but the issue right now, front and center, is this biden plan to get this bipartisan commission together to examine the supreme court and how it operates. now, some have interpreted that as sort of like a signal that he wants to pack the court or he's making a vow to progressives to do that and we'll be talking to senator mike braun of indiana, but in the meantime let's go to dave david spunt on how the administration is planning to address this. reporter: neil, good morning to you you hear a lot of talk in washington that presidential decisions could have impacts for decades. this decision, if in fact, there are justices added or removed from the court, really would have implications for decades. you hear a lot about nine justices on the court. there have been all different numbers of justices over the course of time since the founding of this country but nine have been on the u.s. supreme court for decades and in fact it was the late justice ruth bader ginsburg when she was
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on the court back in 2019 she was talking about this issue and she said "nine seems to be a good number" she's a liberal icon of the court so many are wondering what is all the fuss about? neil, during the presidential campaign, just about six months ago, then-candidate biden promised a 180-day commission to look at multiple issues on the court including potentially expanding it and the white house this week announced it's kicking off that study and it's a bipartisan study. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell blasted it calling it a direct assault on our nation's independent judiciary but it was franklin roosevelt the president who decided he wanted to add more justices to the court and his plan was dubbed court packing and it failed but the criticism lasted for decades in 1983 delaware senator joe biden called it a "bone head idea" and now president biden's commission will look at pros and cons of changing the number of justices. >> they will also be looking at the court's rule and the
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constitutional system, the length of service and turn over of justices on the court, the membership and size of the court, and the court 's case election rules and practices. >> in addition to the supreme court much more pressing on the agenda is that $2 trillion infrastructure plan, the president pushing to change the tax code and the reason he wants to make sure american companies are actually paying some of those taxes to help with infrastructure relating those two ideas together, the white house looking at $2.5 trillion over a decade and a half to help finance roads and whatnot. the president wants to increase the corporate tax rate from 21% under president donald trump to 28% moderate senator joe manchin said let's just meet in the middle maybe look at something like 25%. president biden set to meet with republicans and democrats to talk about this issue on monday. neil? neil: david spunt at the white house, thank you, my friend, very very much well as david touched on here back in the day, rude bader ginsburg expressed concern about increasing the
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number of justices on the supreme court, so in just the past week as justice hasbrye r. take a look. >> nine seems to be a good number and its been that way for a long time. >> what i'm trying to do is to make those whose initial instincts may favor important structural change, or other similar institutional changes, such as forms of court packing. think long and hard before they embody those changes in law. neil: indiana republican senator mike braun with us right now, senator thank you very much for joining us. what do you think of this looking at the supreme court, looking at all possibilities including the term and the length of the term of justices and even how many justices we have. what do you think? >> well we just heard a bone head idea rbg said nine is a good number, even current justice bryer basically saying the same but to me, neil, this
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is emblematic of democrats being faster-footed than we generally are as conservatives and seizing the moment, rahm emmanuel never let a crisis go to waste. the federal government is their gig and when they're in power they're going to run with it so i think this commission is probably pressure from biden's left number one, if he has any memory of calling it a bone head idea when he did do that so i think it's also going to give us a good reading on what to expect on other issues. they are going to test the water s, they are going to seize the moment, and i think hr -1 actually federalizing election law will be the first test to whether they are going to breach the filibuster and then many other things could cascade after that if they do what they normally do. seize the moment and then they also understand that for us to ever undo it, we got to control both chambers, and get the
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presidency and who knows when that might occur, and that's what i'm most worried about is crafting that solution, those ideas, once we get the chance again, but i'm afraid we're going to need to buckle up in the short run but it creates the opportunity for us, as soon as 2022. neil: you know, there's another argument, senator, that this commission idea just cover for the president to say all right, well i had this group look into it and they aren't supposed to make any formal recommendations i understand so i don't know what the commission 's purpose is going to be but having said that , that this will be his chance to tell progressives who maybe pushed him into this , we explored this , didn't seem like a good idea, we're moving on. what do you think? >> i think that could be. he's trying to navigate, i think , the hard pressure he's getting from the house. you can see they are dumping bills into the senate left and right. schumer is basically accommodating by taking this stuff directly to the floor , but for president biden,
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when he talks about unity and wanting to involve the other side of the aisle, he's got a difficult straddle there, and in my opinion, it'll really be interesting to see if he does hold to unity, getting a little bit of bipartisanship, so far, if you'd look at the covid relief bill, that was not the case. i also fear that the infrastructure bill will be a repeat of that, and then i think you can just extrapolate from there what to expect with some of this more out on the edge stuff. neil: you know, talking no less minute or so we have here, senator, you mentioned the infrastructure plan and what the president wants to do on that. he's meeting with a bipartisan group that will include some republicans next week so he's saying he's open to ideas but a lot of your colleagues are saying he isn't open to any of our ideas. do you think such meetings are a waste of time? >> i think, from my perspective , i was over there
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not when the 10 or 11 republicans went over there to talk about the last big bill, which none of our ideas, nor did it get one republican vote. i was over there for supply chain and i think a lot of that, i'm starting to get the feel that is for show, and that they're going to plow forward and do it in a way that is mostly going to suit their needs , and my fear is that when you flood the market, the political market, with all this government through the covid relief bill which was barely that because it was mostly about other stuff, infrastructure, i traveled the state the last two weeks of getting input from legislator, people around my state of indiana, and of course they love all of the money that's falling from the federal tree, but they know that doesn't make sense mid-term and long term, but i think that it's just part of a calculation that they smoke
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screen us with that and then start to dump some of the stuff that would necessity it nate breaching the filibuster and then my main concern is once they do that there's a cascade into things even that are their crown jewels like medicare for all, green new deal, and we got to be prepared for it because to err on that side rather than bipartisanship, trying to do stuff more slowly. neil: we shall see , senator good seeing you again on this saturday. have a wonderful weekend senator mike braun of the beautiful state of indiana. we're going to go into more detail about the president's first priorities in a budget they call it the skinny budget about $1.5 trillion nothing skinny about that but it's sort of a preview of the coming spending attractions we'll get into that in a little bit. in the meantime taking a look at what's happening across the pond in england where they are mourn ing the death of prince philip, and also, looking at an improvement certainly on the virus front there. in fact, they're very close to
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but this is a remembrance of his life very different, because of covid and in fact it's veerly curtailed and prince philip didn't want a fuss when it came to his funeral and a state ceremony and that's what he will get. the royal family is anxious to keep crowds away it's likely to be a small family service held in windsor this am coming saturday. the queen will enter a period of mourning which could go on for weeks remember they were married for 73 years. politics here in the uk has been paused for eight days, there will be no campaigning, no government announcements. phillip was the patriarch of the royal family and so many looked to him for advice. here is what some of his children have said about him. >> what he's done has amounted to an astonishing achievement. >> my father was a great source of support and encouragement. >> he treated everybody as an individual and gave them the respect that he felt that they were due. >> he's been in society, for society, with society for so many years.
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reporter: phillip was 99 and at his core he was a military man. he served in the navy. he was one of the last remaining world war ii veterans in the uk. he was captain general of the marines, marshall of the air force to name a few titles. he embodied the values of the war time generation, frankly in complete contrast to the modern woke thinking of today and above all he be known for his duty, his service to the uk, and that's how people are remembering him today. it is surely a very sad time, we've yet to hear from queen elizabeth who will no doubt, be sitting in windsor remembering the many years she had with phil ip. neil? neil: benjamin thank you very very much for that. it's a little difficult to plan a funeral in the light of what's going on in britain right now, still dealing with the virus, but on that front, and even though for instance phillip has requested this be a low key affair the fact of the matter is things are rapidly improving in britain when it comes to herd immunity. in fact, a lot sooner than most experts thought.
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take a look at this. >> i think the constant modeling that we're talking about can be read as a milestone a milestone that is a testament to the both the efficacy and the efficiency of the vaccination, certainly in the uk but from what i hear also now in the united states. neil: we're not quite there in the united states, but we're getting very very close, but this is something that's been about for sometime, that maybe the brits approach to dealing with vaccination not waiting for a second dose but using planned second doses as first doses for those in that country might have provided the trick and might have started spreading this herd immunity a lot sooner than would normally be the case. this is just the argument that dr. marty makary has been making in columns across the country
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johns hopkins professor of public health, best selling author, fox news contributor dr. makary with us so doctor, what is the significance, as you see it, on the so-called herd immunity that apparently, is virtually there now, in britain. >> well it's pretty impressive cases they are down 98%, neil, the number of daily deaths have come down 96% over the weekend. we expect there to be roughly 15 deaths per day, so the uk is doing very well, and they are far ahead of us yet they have roughly the same number of vaccines per capita. what did they do differently? they decided to focus on first doses. now we have good data that shows first doses are highly effective at four weeks, multiple studies came out showing that and as study after study came out many of us said that is the approach to go with. we now have the experience of the uk to learn that people don't get infected and die between four weeks and 12 weeks, which is when they recommend
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their second dose. neil: is there a danger with pushing back the second dose? in other words if it's not going to be 21 days after the first dough, is there any risk to those who have gotten the first dose and now were delaying that second dose? >> well the many of us that recommended this got pushed back from dr. fauci and the fda and dr. fauci said and i'll quote. he said we don't know if that immune protection drops off a cliff after two or three weeks. the data now from the uk is clear, and they have not seen people after the first dose get reinfected in that time before the second dose, and matter of fact you get better immune protection when the second dose is spread out to 12 weeks and that's true of vaccines in general. the more you spread it out the more you space those two doses, the better the protection , so the data is in. that's the way to go. you double your vaccine supply overnight by just focusing on first doses, that's what michigan needs to do right now. neil: all right, michigan is a
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worry, governor gretchen whitmer , as you know, doctor, is inventing some restrictions on indoor dining and outdoor sports for kids for two weeks to get it under control amid a spike in cases. could that help elsewhere? that does seem to remind us, we're not out of the woods. >> that's right. i would remind people the pandemic is not over. the infection is prevalent among those 10-19 years of age and it's driven a lot by sports. they've also had 35 outbreaks in long term care facilities that were not protected enough with vaccinated immunity. they've also had a couple outbreaks in correctional facilities and they got the b 117 more contagious strain to all of that along with the seasonal variation of the virus, that is it spreads seasonally more quickly, we're seeing that really driving up the numbers for the rest of the country. so, michigan needs to think creatively. unfortunately, their strategy and the restrictions, they just
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announced are reactionary. they probably should have done that about two to three weeks ago. neil: in the meantime, doctor, duke and notre dame as a prominent colleges in this country that have demanded that come next fall, students have proof that they had vaccinations. they aren't vaccine passport per se and what do you think of that as more private businesses and schools making that argument before you step into our facilities have proof that you've been vaccinated? >> i think it's reasonable. they surveyed students a lot and asked them if they would trade proof of vaccination for no restrictions on campus, and students in general preferred a sort of living under the bubble concept of being able to interact more freely and party like they would normally party, maybe that drove it, so that was really a response to the surveys that were done of students. interestingly, these universities are not requiring
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it of their staff and it tells you they are responding to student demand. my concern with the proof of vaccination and by the way i like the way you put that, we need to get away from that term, vaccine passport, proof of vaccination that allows you to do things otherwise we test you for , it should include natural immunity, about a third to half the country. it's real and people should be free to interact if they got those antibodies. neil: how close are we to that here, doctor? >> i think we're to herd immunity, neil is that what you're asking? neil: yes. >> well look at california. they are doing exceptionally well and new mexico is on the b rink. i'd say those two parts of the country are basically where the uk is or was this week. they're going to be following by about one to two weeks. parts of the country are going to hit herd immunity in late april. other parts are going to hit herd immunity in may and i think it's important for people to remember, it's not a binary thing. it's not a finish line. it means you are going to have a lot slower spread of the virus.
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it's going to be around for a while. right now we've got to remind young people where it's circulating albeit usually causing asymptomatic and mild infections that they've got to be careful. if you have a chronic condition and you're young, please be very careful. if you're vaccinated give it four weeks and live your normal life. neil: dr. makary, always great seeing you thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: we're taking a look at the border wall when we come back migrants are rushing in. you ever wonder why the president's border czar is suddenly now rushing out? we're on top of both, after this [ engine revving ] [ race light countdown ] ♪♪ ♪♪ when you save money with allstate you feel like you're winning. safe drivers save 40%
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>> maybe there is a reason to go take a look at this , for the vice president to break
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away from whatever she's doing that's so important, to go to the border. you know, she doesn't have to go to the border of texas if she decides that's not where she wants to go. there's plenty of border in arizona, new mexico, california. what is happening is unconscionable. neil: all right, what is happening is now out of control. right now, the latest we got for the full month of march, 170,000 migrants have been picked up from the border. during that time, that represents a 70% increase, not from the prior-year, from the prior month, and it's accelerating all sorts of concern, the former acting department of the homeland security secretary, heritage foundation visiting fellow. chad, always good to see you. you know, these numbers are accelerating at a beyond incredible pace, so we could play semantics and call it a crisis or a serious situation, but it is out of control.
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no indication right now that they are getting any sense of control. where do you think this is going >> well, you're absolutely right, neil. we not only see the overall numbers accelerating. we see minors accelerating. we see family units and all of these numbers are very concerning. at the end of the day though, as they continue to treat this crisis as a capacity issue and continue to build more facilities, and throw more and more money at it, it's only going to encourage additional numbers of migrants coming across that border, so we're in april now, so april, may, june, july, you're going to continue to see these numbers increase until they start to get serious about enforcement of our laws on that southern border. until they start treating the problem and the problem is the illegal activity and it's not simply trying to build more and more facilities. we should absolutely take care of these folks that come into our kudlow, but you have to address the illegal activity that's going on to stem the surge that we're seeing today. neil: in the meantime, the president released what they
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call a skinny budget, 1.5 trillion, it's not exactly skinny to me but the numbers, there's really no more money in that up for border wall funding. it's reallocated to other areas such as looking at the source of the problem, and helping refugees and all of that, but no more border wall funding. what did you make of that? >> yeah, well that's just completely unfortunate. i think what you have to do, you have to do both of those issues so not only look at the root cause of the illegal migration that we see but we know that that solution is not in the short-term. that's a multi-year problem to address, and right now, the border is on fire. you need to take care of it. you need to address that not only for the law enforcement officials working on that border but also the communities along that border, and so you need to take immediate action and finishing the border wall system is part of that, but also, re instituting some of these policies and procedures that the have worked over the last year and a half is absolutely critical to getting this under
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control. neil: you know, secretary, this wasn't specifically part of the president's new budget, but he is considering and looking quite seriously at the possibility of cash payments to central americans, particularly from much poorer countries of guatemala, honduras, el salvador as a way to present them to finding a need to get to the border in their own right. what do you make of that approach, essentially pay to not go to the border? >> it's an absolutely absurd approach. not only will it not work. it will likely, again, continue to see those numbers until they start enforcing the law, i don't know why we would pay individuals and families in the northern triangle and elsewhere not to come to the border versus just enforcing our law and that's what needs to occur. it's what the we did over the past three or four years, you have to enforce the law, you have to have consequences to illegal behavior. otherwise the bad behavior is going to continue. if this is actually true they
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will continue or they will pay families and then you'll still see those same families showing up at the border getting into the u.s. , wanting to try to make a life here, so, again, it's not the right approach. you have to get serious about enforcing the law on the border for any of this to stop, or at least to stem the flow of the crisis that we see today. neil: i'm just wondering, secretary, they're running out of facilities. i know in dallas they setup i think a university gym a facility for the migrant and migrant minors and three other facilities throughout the united states, as far as california, virginia, for some others. what is the procedure for something like this. these are unprecedented movement s of migrants, i understand that, but who pleases that? how much is done to facilitate that? >> well, i think the challenge that you're seeing here, neil,
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is that because the numbers are so overwhelming, 172000 illegal apprehensions just in the last month alone, is that we don't have the infrastructure built for this. the system is not designed to operate this way, and so the biden administration is breaking the system at the moment and so you're seeing need for additional facilities that we've never needed before, so they are bringing those on in a very quick fashion, temporary facilities that don't have the same government oversight as you would have normal license facilities and i think that is concerning to a number of folks but again, you're going to continue to see this over next several months. they are going to have to bring on more and more capacity because the numbers keep increasing. it was over 20,000 minors in the month of march alone and so you're going to see more and more of these facilities come on line because again, they aren't addressing the issue at the border and trying to stop the illegal behavior. neil: secretary, roberta jacob son, the border czar is leaving. she said at the outset it was only 100-day job.
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i don't recall that at the time but i'll take her at her word. what did you make of that? now there's no border czar. i don't know that we need one but i thought that role was filled by the vice president, kamala harris. what do you make of all of that? >> well, what i would say is we're a little over two months into this crisis and this is going to go on for a considerable amount of time so any individual, any official leaving the biden administration this early into the crisis is concerning. what we know about ambassador jacobson, is she's a diplomat and at this point in time you need less diplomatic speak and actually actions that are going to stem the tide and the surge that we see at the border, so i think talking with mexico, talking with the northern triangle countries is important. you must do that, but it's pastime that we see actual enforcement of our laws on the border to address this issue , sending these minor, sending the family units back to their home countries and relatively short fashion to send the signal that the border is not open and until we do that, again, you're going to see these
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historic numbers that we saw in march. neil: chad wolf, thank you very much, for updating us. we'll keep an eye on it as will you know doubt. in the meantime, if so many are out of work, why are so many opt ing not to go to work? after this. people were afraid i was contagious. i felt gross. it was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx. four years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. learn more at cosentyx.com.
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>> no one is applying for jobs. no one is walking in the door,
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so i mean, we had 393 people on our payroll before covid. right now, i have 303 so 90 people have not come back since covid. now, some of them i understood when we first came out of the covid and we opened backup i had some of them say john i'm going to go on unemployment because at the time, $275 from florida and $600 federal, i think we know where $600 calculation came, 40 hours at 15 they were making 8.75 and said i know we're at 20% open i won't make that much money so i'm going to get unemployment until we get busy and i'll come back but they got used to that and they aren't coming back. neil: and a lot of these unemployment benefits will extend through the rest of the summer at the very very least here, so, for this oyster bar restaurant president, very big in florida right now, he's inbetween businesses booming but he doesn't have enough workers to deal with that, the fallout
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with dan geltrude back with us so dan, what this manager is saying is my business, we're filled to anticipate, i don't have enough workers because some of them have discovered and realized and appreciate that they earn a lot more and continue to collect unemployment benefits that won't expire for sometime, so he's between a rock and a hard place, what do you think of this? >> well he's in competition with the federal government. that's what the federal government has done here, neil. perhaps it was an unintended consequence, who knows but if you think about supply and demand, because the federal government is keeping people on the sideline, employers are going to have to pay more to get workers. what's that going to do? that's going to increase their wages and ultimately that gets passed on to consumers. neil: you know, ann you can understand the logic of extending unemployment benefits when we did, a lot of people were still in a world of hurt and a lot of people right now still in the world of hurt but
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this is what you run into. it locks them into something think ecan do the math and they have child care and other issues too many of them and they crunch the numbers and relationize this is the best strategy for them. how do you see this playing out? >> i think that it's really particularly hard, neil, in florida where there's been a domestic tourism boom. i don't think it necessarily reflects other parts of the country where there is still a slow opening of the non- hospitality industry where i've seen a bit of a snapback. i think that the key issue that makes this really tricky is it's very difficult both for employee s to plan and for employers to plan when there is still a ton of uncertainty around what's going to happen whether there's another wave, vaccinations are going well but there's still concern people are vulnerable and it's not so easy to flip to employment, back to unemployment and ensure that you do have access to these benefits
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if unfortunately your employer has to downsize again so this is just one way they are struggling through to the end of the summer i don't think there's a quick fix at the federal level to try and fix it state by state and boom in some cases but still struggles in others. neil: you know, francis, in the meantime, we are rapidly making up the lost ground of jobs, we lost about 24 million of them now we're down net 8 million and again, if we have another month like last month where we gained almost 1 million jobs, we could rapidly right that ship by then. i'm just wondering how you see the rest of the year going on this front. >> well i think it's going to continue to improve and of course, pandemic assistance, we're only going to be right about what we should have done in hindsight. this is part of the pandemic phenomenon where you've had a multitude of things like supply chain disruption and these different things that you have to contend with, but as long as we're adding jobs and there are only 7.4 million jobs available and as you say,
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8 million unemployed still, so, this is going to head in the right direction and as people burn through their savings and they want to spend on pent-up demand, and as cost as dan says get passed through to the consumer and the cost of living is going up, pretty soon, people, i think, are going to prefer the security of being employed, you know, to pay their mortgages and rent rather than unemployment assistance. neil: if i could switch gears guys, and dan, i'll go back to you, i do want to get your take, guys on what's happened at amazon at its alabama warehouse, where there was a push to unionize it and it was rejected better than 2:1. now the unions, dan, said they're not giving up they are looking potentially at other amazon facilities but what do you think of what went down there? >> a big setback for organized labor, neil. look, amazon is the second largest private employer in the nation. that was really a prime target for unions, and the fact that
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they failed is very telling. why? those workers are basically saying we're making good wages. we have good benefits. there's no reason for us to have to pay union dues for additional representation. we're good the way we are. no thank you. strong message sent by those workers to organize labor. neil: by the way, the largest is walmart, the largest private employer, but ann, what do you make of the fact that in a way, you could say unions got a lot of what they wanted because amazon has over the last couple of years made concessions to workers. i hope on bathroom breaks that's a separate issue but on pay, and benefits and the kind of thing that they were demanding in the first place. much like walmart did and that sort of mitigated the need for unions in the first place. what do you think? >> yeah, i think that's right. these larger private companies that the have got the resources to stay in front of what the
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unions historically stood for , better wages, health coverage, i think the unions will struggle and i think this really brings into question , what is going to be the role of the unions in the future, as more and more parts of the private sector catch up with that trend and a big piece of this , neil, and dan touched on it which is how these companies are staying in front of this is education. i think unions have really got to stop focusing on taking dues and using those to make sure that there are education funds available, that help their members stay in front of new trends, technology training, to make sure that they're fully up to speed on the skills that are needed for the jobs of the future, not just trying to protect the conditions for the jobs of today. neil: all right, we'll look at those jobs a little bit later when you guys come back. i do want to address something else that's calling into question those jobs is the chip shortage that has stopped so many businesses from doing what they have to do, maybe even affect christmas deliveries, and what's under your tree, we'll
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diminishes a little bit but we'll still see some really strong and gusty winds here and especially into where you see that yellow so just be aware of that we'll see another batch of rain move through florida tomorrow so unfortunately, florida your weekend not looking that great. sorry to say it. all right another thing that happened, just this week, colorado state put out their seasonal forecast for hurricanes this is the time of year where we start to get these forecasts colorado state one of the most reliable ones. take a look at these numbers. an average year, 14 named storms that's tropical storm or hurricane, seven hurricanes, three major hurricanes, take a look at this forecast above average season again, remember last year we broke all the records, 30 named storms absolutely unheard of, but this year expecting above average season again one thing i want to point out. basically off a 30 year averages , neil, and 30 year average from 1991 to 2020, has gone up largely, or certainly in part because that really active season we had this last year, so the average named storm s average 14 hurricane
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seven, major hurricanes three. those numbers climbing a little bit over the last 30 years. neil? neil: rick, thank you. i think, rick reichmuth, following all of that. you know, we're mentioning that turbulent weather. its been a very turbulent time in the cruise industry because they are raring to get sailing again, but the cdc essentially won't let them and now its become a legal matter and no less the governor of florida is pitching on their behalf. let's just say the ship has just hit the sand.
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neil: the state of florida is now suing the federal government arguing that the cdc guidelines on cruise lines not being able to operate out of u.s. ports puts them in danger and isn't a
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wise idea. my next guest agrees with that. he is frank delri ox, the norwegian cruise line holdings president and ceo. keep in mind that doesn't only include norwegian clauses but oceanic cruises, region seven seas, frank, thank you very much for joining us. so, you are pretty much like carnival in this regard that this is too onerous, right? that the cdc should be a little bit more open to getting cruises going again? >> good morning, neil, thanks for having me on the show today. look its been 13 months since the cdc shut us down back in march of 2020. in the meantime, just every other sector of the american business community has either not ever closed down or re commenced operations, certainly in the tourism, travel , and hospitality space that's true, and to keep the cruise industry completely shutdown, from u.s. ports, for
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over a year, is just unbelievable and today, we believe that we put forth a incredibly robust comprehensive science-backed multi-layered plan to the cdc this past monday , which has, as its corner stone, 100% vaccination for everybody on board that means 100% of the crew, 100% of guests must be vaccinated to board our vessels and they have to also comply with the 74 protocols developed by our healthy sail panel co-chaired by dr. scott godley, the former fda commissioner and mike levitt, the former health and human services secretary. two individuals who know a lot about public health and safety. they've like our plan and we're waiting for the cdc to respond to it. neil: but they don't, right? its gotten so frustrating for your colleagues at carnival that they threatened to leave
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all u.s.-based ports to continue elsewhere. are you? >> well i don't think it's a threat. other cruise companies including ourselves have already announced the startup of vessels outside of u.s. waters. look, we're a business, we're public companies and we have shareholders to be accountable for , to, and employees, and if we can't operate out of u.s. waters, we'll operate elsewhere. the great thing about ships, unlike buildings, casinos, hotels, resorts whatever you want to call it, we have engines , we have propellers and rutte arer. , and we can move our assets out around wherever we operate. we prefer to operate out of u.s. ports, half of worldwide cruisers are americans but if the cdc is, you know, steadfast on their position not to let us sail under these unreasonable conditions, then we must do what we must do. neil: where do you see this going? i mean, it could delay americans
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getting on boats for a while and through the busy summer usually cruising industry. that's not good timing, right? >> neil, all of society is marching towards vaccinations. it's all about the vaccine. our proposal to the cdc is everybody on board is vaccinated tell me one venue on this green earth whether it's your grocery store, an apartment building, a factory, a hospital, a resort, a hotel, casino, all of these are open, an air plan, where everyone on board is guaranteed to be vaccinated. you will feel safer, you will be safer on board our cruise ship than anywhere else on this earth because we control the environment. we will have, not a bubble-like, we will have a bubble where everyone on board is protected. how can you not, how can you not agree that that is the safest way to vacation, the safest venue in the world. you know that by the , in three
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weeks by may 7, 70% of the adult population in the u.s. will be vaccinated. 100% -- neil: these are all good ideas, you raise a lot of good ideas we'll watch this very closely. please keep us posted you're doing everything you should be doing. we'll have more, after this. ...
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>> the masters tournament is going on in augusta georgia, despite the fact that major league baseball moved from atlanta to colorado. we'll spoke to the governor in a second. the masters chairman sar saying that this was not what he wanted to consider and that golf would go on and it's in the state of georgia. lucas tomlinson back and forth and that georgia voting law
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that precipitated all of this, lucas. >> good morning, neil. april means spring, the final four, the start of baseball season and of course the masters. and this is no exception. despite major league baseball pulling the all-star game from atlanta and two hours east in augusta, the only major championship to be played the same place every year. the first full week of april and they welcomed the lee elder, the first black man to play. he joined jack nicklaus and gary player on the first tee. and addressed critics about the handling of the voting law. >> there have been calls for boycotts and other punitive measures. unfortunately, those actions often impose the greatest burdens on the most vulnerable
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in our society and in this case, that includes our friends and neighbors here in augusta who are the very focus of the positive difference we are trying to make. >> and here is georgia's governor a short time ago. >> we're in -- former mlb commissioner vince sent writing in the wall street journal, the only people hurt will be the atlanta stadium workers and venues. and charles payne says it will be out of the pockets of business workers and hank aaron was supposed to be honored there in atlanta and now he'll be honored in colorado. neil: and certainly major league baseball moving the all-star game to colorado and
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they'll be playing that in denver, coors field. colorado governor joins us right now. and thank you for taking the time. >> thank you. neil: i was thinking of the home run hitting contest is going to be something to behold in colorado with the thinner air and having said that, the notion that this was something that georgia should have expected and the mlb should have been, you know, warning ahead of time that this was going to happen, they did, it's a done deal. now the game is going to be in colorado, but some are afraid that it's mlb is sending the wrong signal, what do you think? >> look, in colorado we see opportunity and we seize it and as you said, this is going to be an epic home run derby july 12th. a mile above sea level, the dry air and balls carry further. we've got a great stadium at coors field and we're just
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ready and excited to show the talent in the american and national league coming to denver for july 12th and 13th. neil: you know, i guess you last hosted an all-star game back in 1998, so really a generation of fans who weren't even around at that time. this could mean $100 million to colorado. your thoughts on how you take advantage of this. >> well, it comes at a great time. i happen to be a huge baseball fan and love the rockies and we didn't have pro ball growing up in colorado so i used to be a padres fan before that. we had a semi pro team the zephyrs here in colorado part of the brewers farm system, but we're just ready for this like so many people are. we were actually preparing a bid to host the all-star game in 2024, i think that was the likely trajectory we were on, but when this opportunity came, it couldn't come at a better time, people will be fully
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vaccinated there ready to go and we have great summer weather and we're ready to showcase baseball talent. neil: you're a beneficiary of this and not splitting hairs, but even the democratic georgia senators who took a look at the action on the part of major league baseball worry it's going to boomerang on the very people in the state who probably need the help the most. what do you think of that and the argument that this went too far? because the-- >> major league baseball-- >> they're not moving things. >> yeah, major league baseball, you know, made this call. i think it was better they made a decisive call than they anguished over this for weeks and only amplified the-- you're never going to satisfy everybody, but i can tell you colorado fans are happy and i can tell you baseball fans across the country are going to see a great product that we produce in colorado and showcase all the talent. neil: do you think the president might have, you know, added to the--
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over this governor by calling the georgia voting law jim crow and saying that it's racist and that almost encouraging businesses to do what many have, to boycott or reconsider their association with the state of georgia? >> well, look, this can't have been an easy decision for major league baseball. i think they absolutely did the right thing by moving decisively rather than publicly wrangling over this for weeks. they had to move quickly. there's no right answer, they have a lot of people they want to satisfy, sponsors, players, if there's no players, there's no games and fans. all i can tell you, it's going to be a great all-star game and we're more than ready in colorado and we're excited. you know, i certainly sympathize with people losing out on the business in georgia, but all the business they're losing out on there, we're going to get here. so it's over $100 million of economic contributions to the
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colorado economy and maybe moved it up a few years and we're ready to go. neil: the irony was, and you've heard this before that colorado's voting law is very, very similar to this new one in georgia in that, you know, you have no excuse absentee voting. you both have absentee battle verification if your case is signatures matching. early voting period, and polling centers that must be open for 15 days, very similar to what the new law is in georgia. so what if they were to turn around and people were to scrutinize your law and you have all mail-in voting and there's a distinction there and could be capricious? >> i appreciate you emphasizing that second point. colorado has what we call the default is mail-in ballots. i think we have 96, 97% of people vote by mail and you get it in your home three weeks before the election. it's good to get it in your home because we have a complicated ballot, we have initiatives and people have to research them, major policy
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decisions that affect things. and then, if for some reason you didn't get it, didn't want to vote by mail, move to the state, we have they can vote on election day and register on election day and we have no lines election day essentially we're a default mail state and 96% of the state vote that way. neil: governor, what capacity is coors field now and at what capacity do you expect it to be at by the time of the all-star game? >> they're among the parks, i think, with the exception of texas, the most capacity of any stadium, they're at about half capacity which for our normal rockies home games, frankly, neil, that's-- we're happy if we sell out half capacity on a normal home game. so our capacity is over 50,000 and i think we're at 21,000 or something like that. by july, it should be full. you know, with the timeline of the administration of the
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vaccine, everyone who wants it will be able to get it mid to late may, that means immunity mid to late june, so, there's a couple week buffer there, we're glad to have that, but should be no problem to be back at full capacity. neil: you've been very diligent not loosen things too quickly and warned of a fourth wave of the virus in your state and i guess you've seen, you know, a lot of the new cases that have developed are some of these variants. so how would you characterize the virus right now in colorado? >> so, we're pretty much following the national trend. there's been an increase the last couple weeks, not as pronounced as michigan, but certainly at a lower rate than it was the last peak, but there's something different about this. neil, for anybody out there who says do i get the vaccine or not? it's amazing to watch efficacy of the vaccine in real-time we see the rates in 60's, 70's, 80's, down, down, down and
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unfortunately going up in 18 to 50 years old and that's who we're focusing on vaccinating now. remarkable to see decreasing 60's and 70's where it's been the highest mortality rates this way. neil: you've recommended a mask mandate stay in effect through the summer, was it? can you update it? >> depends on the area of our state. we have mask utilitization in intimate settings, getting a hair cut or a massage or that sort of thing. but in terms of outdoor, few outdoor mask requirements in your state and with groups of 10 or more people that are not vaccinated you need to wear a mask and we're telling people to use your common sense. if you've been vaccinated, 15 days after the second dose or first dose in johnson & johnson, you can ease up and go back some of your normal activities.
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if you haven't been vaccinated wear a mask and no matter where you are in the country, wear a mask and get vaccinated and then you can ease up. neil: got it. governor polis, the governor of the beautiful state of colorado. again, that home run derby in that state is going to be wild. regardless of your views or the politics, it's going to be wild. we want to update you across the pond. prince philip, and it's going to be scaled down, and restrictions in place. and we have word that prince harry will in fact attend his grandfather's funeral. no word on meghan markle. you're watching cavuto live. # and having more days is possible with verzenio, proven to help you live significantly longer
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>> all right. you just heard a little while ago on the show from the norwegian cruise lines ceo that he wants to get back and sailing again and is even guaranteeing the c.d.c. and everyone else any passenger aboard any of his ships, run the full line to these large monsters that sail, for the masses as it were, that they've all got to be tested for the vaccine and all have to be tested negative for that-- will have had to have the vaccine and testing negative for the virus. my next guest says that's not an issue for him. he runs his business saying that, look, this is not the be all, end all. the co-founder and ceo, no vaccine required on his part. there is a risk with that mr. runyan, but explain your position. >> thank you for having me on. there are two vaccines we need
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to talk about and and above of the gym and fitness industries we've followed the protocols to create a safe environment for our members around the world and working on physical well-being. we're believers in the vaccine and i think we need to do that to be protected from covid-19, but i think we're missing a bigger point, the long-term vaccine from proper conditions and exercise and helps with type ii diabetes, cardiovascular disease and those are what we need a vaccine for. short-term, yes. and long-term, we've got to get this country healthy again. neil: still, if i enter your gym or others enter and there's no proof that we've been vaccinated or for that matter that we're testing negative for the virus at the moment, i understand that can change, how could people feel safe in an environment where maybe the guy in the next weight circuit does have it?
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>> across the industry we have masks in place through many of the states. we're following social distancing guidelines. we're offering capacity restraints. so, you know, we can monitor this on a club by club or basis around the country and by and large fitness centers make sure the environment is safe by following local protocols. and we're in health and creating a safe environment for our members. with mask capacities and social distancing, we can do that. neil: so, obviously, it varies on the state, i get that. what are some of the rules that you have in effect right now? >> well, in many states we have a-- just a capacity restriction so we can only have a certain percent of members or clients in our gyms and studios. in addition, distance between the machines, between workout spots, between cardiovascular machines and in many states people are coming in the club wearing a mask, which is fine. whatever community or state we're in, our industry is
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abiding by that. we're making sure and creating that safe environment and people, still, people need the long-term condition. we're providing them long-term vaccine of good health. neil: that's a good point. and the long-term, staying healthy and wise and all of that. thank you. >> yes, covid shined the spotlight on the poor health of our country. we need an industry of fitness and nutrition. neil: all right. got it. chuck runyan is a self-esteem brand co-founder and ceo, staying fit and doing the right thing. news from a congressman just into the border and has a message for the president of the united states after this. i'm searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time. that's why td ameritrade designed a first-of-its-kind, personalized education center. oh. their award-winning content is tailored to fit your investing goals and interests.
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>> one of the first people we encountered was a young girl maybe no more than 10 years old and she was crying. we asked her why are you crying? she said because i don't want to be here. i'm a father. how could president biden and kamala harris allow this to go on and not even come here and see it for themselves? it's a disgrace. neil: and here are republicans a part of the group that just saw the border including guests i was speaking to and the numbers are getting worse and eye popping. rich edson at the rio grande in texas with the latest. >> good morning, neil. we're about a mile north of the rio grande river, the border with mexico and officials here say this is every day. these folks were picked up shortly after the morning this morning and you've got about 100 different people, most of
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them from the northern triangle, but also migrants who tried to make the journey coming up from nicaragua and ecuador and romania and europe trying to make the journey through mexico and coming into the united states. it's going to be about 90 degrees here and that's a relief, it was triple digits yesterday. they will be processed at different facilities. it's a major, major surge here. at this fiscal year point about 250, 243% higher than we were at this time last fiscal year. you go through the entire southwest border, the federal government says that's about 187% increase. so, you have overall apprehension here at a 20-year high, unaccompanied children are at an all-time high, nearly 19,000 alone last month. that's well above the previous high of more than 11,000 in may of 2019.
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so with more than 20,000 children in government custody or care, officials are also saying they're receiving reports of abuse. health and human services in a statement says, quote, hhs has a zero tolerance policy for all forms of sexual abuse, sexual harassment, and inappropriate sexual behavior at all uc care provider facilities. we'll continue investigating any incidents affecting children's health, well-being and safety and take the proper measures. the white house says it's focusing on the drivers of immigration and trying to push additional $4 billion to assist those countries and that's again, northern triangle. you've got el salvador, guatemala and honduras and the border coordinator, ambassador roberta jacobson is stepping down the end of the month and the white house says that jacobson was committed to 100
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days and then moving on. and then you've got vice-president kamala harris she's supposed to be taking over the problems in the northern triangle and the idea is to solve the issues there and you don't have as many coming up through the border and taking the dangerous journey. an awful lot of criticism and a number of lawmakers here, number two house republican who you mentioned steve is a scalise and he's here and there will be more next week. back to you. neil: rich, is the biden administration saying the reports of sexual abuse, they have not confirmed them so they-- they are not acknowledging them or saying this is false reporting? what are they saying? >> what they're saying is that they're taking it seriously and asking people to report and that there have been the texas authorities have said that they have gotten confirmed reports.
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health and human services through the statement we read, take that seriously, but we're not getting many details what the reports are. neil: got it, rich edson, thank you very, very much. and rich has been talking about congressmen visiting and my next guest from ohio visited the border yesterday. congressman, very good to have you. what did you see during this visit? >> well, i saw humanitarian crisis and i saw a tremendous need for the president and the vice-president biden and harris, along with dr. fauci, to go down to the border and see what's happening firsthand and i say dr. fauci because we're in the middle of a pandemic and i think it should be looked at as to what we have created her since the biden policies got in place. we have a humanitarian crisis that's predictable. border patrol says they planned for this after the election once they saw joe biden won they knew there was going to be problem and their jobs were
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going to change dramatically from what they'd come. they went from being law enforcement to law enforcement and social workers. they're not designed to do, but doing it as best they can. their job is to stop crime and criminals, protect america, facilitate legal travel and trade, but now they're overwhelmed and the situation is overcrowded. 172,000 just in march and that's what they know of. so the situation is inhumane yet, i mentioned just briefly health and human services, their policy. that's not the policy of the cartels. women and children are smuggled and trafficked and they're the ones benefitting from this. the policies put in place we learned are clearly benefitting the cartels because not only are they making money by bringing people across, they're also making money because more of their drugs and weapons and things like that, that they smuggle are getting across as well because of the diversion.
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president biden said ignore title 42 we must take children under seven so guess what, they respond and they start sending children. and the biden administration put an end to the migration protection program, with i -- which held people in mexico or if they were held there, went through the asylum claims. and they were not overwhelming them. and we're now seeing an increase in families and unaccompanied children as well as increase in the other categories as well. when it comes to overcrowding you have facilities that c.d.c. guidelines said you can hold 200 people. we had 3500 yesterday. it's been up to 5,000. we have facilities-- >> what do you think, congressman, what do you think on that to ease those numbers.
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the biden administration is seriously considering cash payments to central americans, specifically from guatemala and honduras and el salvador to mitigate those rushing to the border what do you think of that? >> in what way, where is the cash going? is the government going to keep it themselves? what does that money do? who does it serve. the problem is when the policies are such that you can get across and people-- i understand why they want to come to america, i get that, but when the policies are such that the door is open, the cartels take advantage of that. so you could make arrangements with the governor, but if you're not controlling what the cartels are doing, i don't think that that's going to do much good. neil: got it. >> it should hold 33 children by covid standards, 393 yesterday, 413 in another, 600 in another and yet at the same time i want to give them credit where it's due. they are screening. you know, we went down there, doctors from the intelligence
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committee, they don't test for covid of all of these kids unless there's symptoms because otherwise they are tested later when they're finally out of their care. we're seeing chicken pox, lice is huge, scabies, kids with the flu. fevers of unknown origin, meningitis, there are emergency medical technicians there and take people to the hospital. at the same time, food, clothes, showers every day, but only supposed to hold them 72 hours and supposed to be turned over to hhs. hhs is-- was entirely unprepared for what came our way. they built a brand new facility that we were the first to go into and it's a nice facility, should take care of a lot of kids, but not as many of the number of kids coming in. the manpower is down for the border patrol. many people are retiring. they're not being able to do the job that they were assigned to do. neil: all right. congressman, thank you for the update and just to your point, 170,000 migrants picked up from the border, that's a 70%
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>> you mention the infrastructure plan and what the president wants to do on that. he's meeting with a bipartisan group that will include some republicans, you know, next week. so, he seems open to ideas, but some of your colleagues are saying, he isn't open to our ideas. do you think such meetings are a waste of time? >> i was over there for a supply chain and a lot of that, i'm starting to get the feel that it's for show and they're
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going to plow forward and do it in a way that's mostly going to suit their needs. neil: all right. republican senator at least skeptical about the president's over overtures to talk about the infrastructure, and the president wants closer to 600, 650 billion republicans are open to spend. and scott peters from the budget committee and problem solvers caucus, eager to find some middle ground here, common ground. congressman, great to have you. >> thanks for having me, neil. neil: you know, as i was mentioning, congressman, the two sides seem miles apart and you're trying to bridge that as a democrat trying to work with republicans. where do you see this going? it seems like it will go along a party line vote much like other initiatives have under
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this administration and by the way, under the prior administration, but what do you make of it? >> well, i hope not. i hope we can work together because i think there's bipartisan support for a lot of what's included in the package, roads, bridges, rails, ports. i think broadband is increasingly an issue, rural broadband has been an issue for many republicans and now we have a digital divide across the country and access to information is access to opportunity. we want to secure the electric grid and modernize it, make sure that water supplies are secure and safe. i think there's a lot of room for agreement and i give credit to president biden for putting out a pretty good list. now, i don't expect democrats or republicans to agree with every item, but we ought to agree on what we need to invest in and how we're going to pay for it. i think some of the skepticism that democrats have about republicans comes from two things, one is, under president trump we kept hearing about infrastructure, but i don't think we got any single idea about exactly what he wanted to
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spend and how you he wanted to fund it. and then also republicans have-- many of them signed a pledge never to raise taxes on anybody for any reason and the skepticism to pay for this. we have to deal with our debt and deficit issues and a lot of us are eager to do and hope we can do it together. neil: and the republicans are not keen on paying for it on tax hikes, and user taxes, fees, at that sort of thing, you know, gas tax and the rest. are you? >> yes, i mean, i think that you also have to give credit to president biden for putting out a pretty comprehensive payment plan. people are used to paying gas taxes for these things. that could be an equal miles tax, a carbon fee. i think we should engage in those kinds of discussions. under president trump we were borrowing a trillion dollars a year just to pay ongoing expenses before covid. that's not sustainable.
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we've got to get this country on a sustainable fiscal path where our economy is not growing as-- our debt is not growing faster than our economy, which is the situation we're in now. i talked with by bipartisan friend, jody aaronton from texas and i hope we can do that. neil: congressman, while we have you, we were talking about the border on this show, quite a bit, actually, and given the president's priorities here, not keen on adding more money to a wall or that sort of thing. he is hope to, you know, funding as we look at live drone shots from the area along the rio grande, to providing moneys for those who try to come here from points in central america. where are you on this? and the financial commitment he is making to address this. republicans say he's not doing nearly enough. >> well, i'm a person who thinks we have a broken immigration system and we have
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to fix it and then enforce the laws that we have. right now we are just not taking this issue on since 2013 senate in bipartisan fashion, and across the issues, bringing people farm workers or scientists, to help with home care, help situations with manufacturing, where there's a labor shortage and provide billions of dollars for border security. that's the kind of discussion we have to get back to. i think that no one thinks that the current situation is acceptable either at the border or around the country where we have a labor shortage and where immigration is typically how we turn to help our companies compete. neil: congressman peters, thank you very, very much. we'll see how this goes. you're trying to find a way to get both sides together. there's a concept. scott peters of california.
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we have more on this outreach, maybe what president biden could learn from ronald reagan after this.
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>> all right. bipartisanship seems to be an empty gesture, but ronald reagan practiced it. joe biden talks about it and take him that his goal. and tip o'neill, ted kennedy, because he said that any big piece of legislation have the bipartisan stamp on it. and a distinguished college fellow and much, much more, burt, that was not just lip service. ronald reagan thought it was generational substantive across the board support to give it staying power?
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>> absolutely. president reagan started as a democrat and he began at that thought that limited government worked better. he thought i would reason with my opponent and see if we can get something accomplished. he would meet with tip o'neill after hours to discuss different ideas and sure enough, we had social security reform, immigration reform and i guess the biggest was the tax reform act of 1986, which cut the top rate on income down to 28% which was the lowest we'd had in decades and that stimulated the economy and helped economic growth. that was bipartisan. neil: more than 40 votes in the house. and as you've written here, he was famous for saying even when we have to accept things we don't like, it's in the greater good, we get what we want and they get some of what they want, we're all -- we're all
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doing okay and it's good for the country. that is an alien concept today. >> well, that is-- but your point is absolutely well-taken, neil. it's for the stability of the free nation that you have bipartisan. only with some kind of bipartisan can you have stable government because otherwise, if you have no support from the other side, when the other side gets in power, they can overthrow what you do. we saw that with president obama in obamacare and he had no republican support and that presented all sorts of problems. with civil rights, lyndon johnson reached across the aisle to everett dirksen and the republicans ended up supporting the civil rights bill more than the democrats did and it passed. neil: much like jfk worked with republicans to get tax cuts and famously came to fruition after
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his tragic assassination. the other thing i heard about ronald reagan, even when he didn't like something from the other side he thought it the better part of valor to give them something even if he recoiled at it. had a lot of issues he did, but he felt it was important not to leave them looking like they had been beaten down, that they needed and had their dignity. i always thought that was a very nice way with to lead a country, to grant that the other side should have some dignity. >> well, ted kennedy said about ronald reagan, he said ronned ronald reagan is, quote, a generous foe. and that typifies what you just said, neil. he was willing to give the other side something in order to have the other -- to have joint cooperation so that we could go before the nation and move forward with programs that worked and that's what president reagan thought. he was a great communicator. neil: and you wrote exclusively
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lot of important vehicles, delaying their release here, and it could drag on for a number of weeks at a number of facilities, but it extends now to delayed shipments from everything from mac book pros to ipads, and game machines and routers. the entire broadband rollout, it's affected it. and here with us, dan, and frances, beginning with you, i didn't realize this was so widespread and could have an impact it is. it's seriously delaying what's already a compromised supply chain. what's going on? >> well, when the supply goes down, prices go up. and so you can expect all of these electronics to be more expensive at christmas time. the chip manufacturers pivoted during covid because you will little demand in the auto sector and they needed it for home schooling and activities. and this will normalize
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eventually, but you can expect the cost of goods to go up alongside everything else as this normalizes. neil: you know, and we knew about some chip shortages that were reported and if you would think that some companies could adjust or find other chip alternatives, apparently they can't. if this were to linger into christmas and affect how much santa can leave at your home, that's going to really start ticking off a lot of consumers, right? >> it is. and there is nothing more important than getting those toys under the tree on time. i think the big issue here, it takes a really long time to try and find chip alternatives, there weren't that many manufacturers around the world and takes a long time to create that capability. it's going to be a while before this gets fixed. >> only 12% of chips are made in the u.s. and that's another thing that makes it very hard to control within our country. neil: yes, and most in china, i
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should point out. you know, dan, one thing that's very clear and i think that fran mentioned at the outset, the listing price of a lot of goods and and top of oil and gas and food supply issues, corn, wheat and barley, are we looking at an inflation problem here that's going to readily start rapidly growing? >> i think, neil, we've already been seeing inflation creeping up and we're hearing more and more of where it's coming from. we already know, gas prices are going up, prices of corn, lumber, all of these things are coming together and if we pay attention here, we may be creating a perfect storm to what's happening and all the stimulus, i can't see how, neil, we are not going to be going into an inflationary period and when we talk about
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microchips, which basically are in everything that we use now, as you had mentioned earlier, that literally means the prices of everything are going to go up and inflation, as you know, that's that hidden tax that impacts everyone. >> inflation is going to be-- yeah, but you know. >> sorry, neil. neil: a lot of the stuff you think of-- i was going to go to you on this frances, the notion some things we need and other things we don't need. the very smart refrigeraor that tells you, again, neil, you're opening that? but other things are much more vital? >> i've got a smart refrigerator, and we don't get along well, we don't speak the same language. jerome powell maintained you have one in 10 not paying
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mortgages, one in five not paying rents so the credit markets are going to be sensitive toward the end of the year. the problem is in the interim as prices rise, it's going to kill that wealth gap which was murdered already by the pandemic and that's going to be the saddest thing to come out of the sort of temporary covid phenomena with supply chain disruptions and employment disruptions, et cetera. neil: yeah, 30 seconds or so we have left, dan. one. things i'm seeing is that the markets don't see this as an issue. they're not worried about it. they're racing to records, and nasdaq out of correction territory so they're not worried. are you. >> the markets-- >> the markets-- go ahead. >> are not worried, neil because interest rates are low and more and more and more stimulus are-- >> dan, you're not worried. i wasn't clear, ann, you're not worried? >> i'm not worried. i think the markets got it right and i think the inflationary pressure will be
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temporary and i think that powell will move and he'll move quickly. neil: got it. sorry for that confusion, ann and dan sound a lot. francis, you lucked out because it does not sound like others. we'll see how the markets are trading monday. that will do it here. that means... best burger ever. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments, payroll, and banking. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection.
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>> president biden is reigniting the debate over court packing, and setting up a commission to examine and produce a report on the supreme court bench. that's our top story this hour. welcome to fox news live. i'm gillian turner, great to be with you everyone at home, kristin. >> great to be with you. the white house says they're fulfilling a campaign promise and the republicans are slamming this order and accusing them on the highest court. >> hey, kristin and

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